kc_p21
12-10 04:03 PM
Please
It's a sad day to see IVers granting each other 'red squares' , and committed members asking each other to 'shut up'.
We are quick in jumping at each others throat for no apparent real reason ! Being part of a forum is sharing space with others, with those whom you disagree, and those who disagree with you. Argue logically, but don't make it a personal fight.
Don't agree with someone, make your displeasure known. If things seem to be getting hotter, ignore the other person. Live and let live. We have bigger issues to worry here - GC mess - instead of who said what !
It's a sad day to see IVers granting each other 'red squares' , and committed members asking each other to 'shut up'.
We are quick in jumping at each others throat for no apparent real reason ! Being part of a forum is sharing space with others, with those whom you disagree, and those who disagree with you. Argue logically, but don't make it a personal fight.
Don't agree with someone, make your displeasure known. If things seem to be getting hotter, ignore the other person. Live and let live. We have bigger issues to worry here - GC mess - instead of who said what !
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abqguy
05-19 03:22 PM
$50 via paypal. Great job IV. I won't be able to make it to DC however have scheduled time with my lawmakers to go talk to them in person.
abqguy
p.s. Is it just me or is this website slow for everyone?
abqguy
p.s. Is it just me or is this website slow for everyone?
mohican
01-14 08:32 PM
Thanks you all for making the post and clarifying the difference between I140 substitution vs underlying labor being used. I guess in my case the approved labor was used and not I140. I have asked my previous employer to send us the revocation request for the I140 so that my MTR is much stronger. The 2 applicant to 1 labor/I140 is exactly what has happened in my case. One of you has done a very good job of explaining it.
My current lawyers are in the process of filing for MTR. I have been delayed a bit since we never got the damn letters. I have H1b until June as a backup. My wife works on EAD--should she inform her employer or she could continue since they don't know yet.
I will continue updating this thread.
Best-
Mohican
My current lawyers are in the process of filing for MTR. I have been delayed a bit since we never got the damn letters. I have H1b until June as a backup. My wife works on EAD--should she inform her employer or she could continue since they don't know yet.
I will continue updating this thread.
Best-
Mohican
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GCKaMaara
03-05 07:26 AM
I also got the same letter from USCIS today.
Where is the core who advised us to fax letter to USCIS. Please let us know what the action plan is ?
I am ready for $25.
I think we need to contact Ombudsman with this letter. This is ridiculuous.
Where is the core who advised us to fax letter to USCIS. Please let us know what the action plan is ?
I am ready for $25.
I think we need to contact Ombudsman with this letter. This is ridiculuous.
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iwantlabor
06-14 08:54 AM
Good news for some and not so good news for others. I have been waiting for my labor for last 4 years and have still not got the approval on hand. So I am not ready to apply for 485. Where as a friend of mine who came to US last year and applied for labor through perm 2 months back has his approved labor and can apply for 485. I feel this is kind of unfair. The dates should have progressed slowly but steadily instead of trying to create a mad rush now.
nave_kum
07-22 03:24 AM
07/21/2007: RFE/NOID Flexible Time Frame Rule and Need for USCIS Discretion for Pe-July 17, 2007 EB-485 Filers
July VB Fiasco was a tragic event in the American immigration history and we are grateful that the USCIS rectified the problem on July 17, 2007 by reversing its decision to deny July 2007 EB-485 applications. We do not have specific statisics on EB-485 filers from July 2, 2007 until July 17, 2007. However, for the two reasons, among others, a large number of applicants sent in EB-485 applications during the period. Firstly, they more or less anticipated that either DOS or USCIS would rectify the problems because of the potential serious flaws in their decisions. Secondly, AILF was preparing class action lawsuits and they wanted to make it sure that they took advantage of being a member of the class without actually being named as plaintiffs. One time, people thought it was a smart move and right thing to do it, even though this reporter suggested to the people to wait until August VB was released.
Currently, these early filers are literally going through nightmares, hardships, and sleepless nights because of the two reasons. The first reason is that their cases have been on hold and no Receipt Notices have been issued. The second reason is that recently the USCIS revised its rule (1) allowing the adjudicating officers to exercise a discretion and issue a RFE with the response time of less than 12 weeks and (2) to exercise a discretion to either reject or deny a petition or an application without issuing RFE when the "initial evidence" is missing in the filing. Combination of these facts is currently creating a turmoil to these filers for the two reasons. There are some filers who submitted I-140/I-485 application without a sufficient documentation in haste, for instance, medical report, or other flaws in the submitted evidence. These people are restless not knowing whether their application could be rejected or denied, indeed a truly deadly consequences. The circumstances force them to wonder whether they should refile the petition/application before August 17, 2007 not to take any chances. There are, however, two hurdles to such decision. One is the recent denial of I-140 petitions by the adjudicators if the petition was not accompanied by the "original" labor certification. The another reason is no fixed rule or policy on the filing of multiple I-485 applications. This creates a fear that their second filing may also be rejected or denied. They are thus trapped! The second victims are international travelers. If the application is either rejected or denied and they are present in the U.S., they will be able to refile it after correcting the flaws in their initial evidence before August 17, 2007. However, when they are not present in the U.S., they will be deprived of such opportunities, which may be considered "deadly." Some people are still present in the U.S. at this time, but because of business or personal emergency, they will have to travel outside of the country using their H-1B/H-4 or L-1/L-2 visa. If their cases are rejcted or denied during their absence, they will not be able to refile it timely before August 17, 2007. They are trapped again! Their act which was considered a right thing to do to one time turns out to be a nightmare. Who would have anticipated the nightmare?
We urge the USCIS to consider the following actions to relieve these applicants from the unnecesary hardship:
Under he RFE/NOID Flexible Timeframe rule, a decision to reject or deny without a RFE remains a "discretion" of the individual adjudicator in each case. This reporter proposes that considering the unusual circumstances involving the July VB fiasco and the USCIS unusual remedial action at the last minute, the USCIS exempts these filers from the rule and make it mandatory to issue RFE before rejection or denial unless the following flaws are found in the filing:
No filing fee checks or flaws in the filing fee checks
Missing signatures in the forms
Missing forms
Missing underlying certified labor certification application for I-140 petitions (either original or copy).
Should the filers decide to refile it before August 17, 2007, the USCIS should accept a copy of the certified labor certification application rather than rejection or denial of the refiled I-140 petition. In fact, it has been the INS/USCIS tradition to accept I-140 petition with a copy of the certified labor certification application inasmuch as the original was on file with the agency, albeit in other file of the same applicant or other applicants. Accordingly, it should be a matter of adhering to the tradition and to instruct the adjudicators not to reject such refiling on the issue of a copy of the certified labor certification application. Additionally, inasmuch as there is an evidence that the labor certification has been certified by the DOL but the applicant was unable to submit the original or copy because the application was lost or yet to be delivered to the applicant, such I-140 which was filed during the period should not be rejected or denied. Again, it has been a tradition of the agency to request a duplicate certified labor certification from the DOL by the agency itself when there was a proof of certification. We urge the USCIS to exercise the discretion and instruct the adjudicators not to reject or deny I-140 filed during the problem period for the reasons of missing "original."
Foregoing actions will relieve these filers from most of the nightmares or status of being trapped. It is thus strongly urged that the leaders of the USCIS extend a compassion on a human level and exercise a discretion immediately to take the foregoing actions. This reporter has been receiving hundres of emails from these filers and had to share the pains and emotional despair since there was no answer to the foregoing issues under the curcumstances. Since the deadline of filing is August 17, 2007, the USCIS should swiftly release an announcement to relieve these people from the problem "effectively." On behalf of all these trapped, this reporter personally pleas the leaders of the USCIS to act quickly.
July VB Fiasco was a tragic event in the American immigration history and we are grateful that the USCIS rectified the problem on July 17, 2007 by reversing its decision to deny July 2007 EB-485 applications. We do not have specific statisics on EB-485 filers from July 2, 2007 until July 17, 2007. However, for the two reasons, among others, a large number of applicants sent in EB-485 applications during the period. Firstly, they more or less anticipated that either DOS or USCIS would rectify the problems because of the potential serious flaws in their decisions. Secondly, AILF was preparing class action lawsuits and they wanted to make it sure that they took advantage of being a member of the class without actually being named as plaintiffs. One time, people thought it was a smart move and right thing to do it, even though this reporter suggested to the people to wait until August VB was released.
Currently, these early filers are literally going through nightmares, hardships, and sleepless nights because of the two reasons. The first reason is that their cases have been on hold and no Receipt Notices have been issued. The second reason is that recently the USCIS revised its rule (1) allowing the adjudicating officers to exercise a discretion and issue a RFE with the response time of less than 12 weeks and (2) to exercise a discretion to either reject or deny a petition or an application without issuing RFE when the "initial evidence" is missing in the filing. Combination of these facts is currently creating a turmoil to these filers for the two reasons. There are some filers who submitted I-140/I-485 application without a sufficient documentation in haste, for instance, medical report, or other flaws in the submitted evidence. These people are restless not knowing whether their application could be rejected or denied, indeed a truly deadly consequences. The circumstances force them to wonder whether they should refile the petition/application before August 17, 2007 not to take any chances. There are, however, two hurdles to such decision. One is the recent denial of I-140 petitions by the adjudicators if the petition was not accompanied by the "original" labor certification. The another reason is no fixed rule or policy on the filing of multiple I-485 applications. This creates a fear that their second filing may also be rejected or denied. They are thus trapped! The second victims are international travelers. If the application is either rejected or denied and they are present in the U.S., they will be able to refile it after correcting the flaws in their initial evidence before August 17, 2007. However, when they are not present in the U.S., they will be deprived of such opportunities, which may be considered "deadly." Some people are still present in the U.S. at this time, but because of business or personal emergency, they will have to travel outside of the country using their H-1B/H-4 or L-1/L-2 visa. If their cases are rejcted or denied during their absence, they will not be able to refile it timely before August 17, 2007. They are trapped again! Their act which was considered a right thing to do to one time turns out to be a nightmare. Who would have anticipated the nightmare?
We urge the USCIS to consider the following actions to relieve these applicants from the unnecesary hardship:
Under he RFE/NOID Flexible Timeframe rule, a decision to reject or deny without a RFE remains a "discretion" of the individual adjudicator in each case. This reporter proposes that considering the unusual circumstances involving the July VB fiasco and the USCIS unusual remedial action at the last minute, the USCIS exempts these filers from the rule and make it mandatory to issue RFE before rejection or denial unless the following flaws are found in the filing:
No filing fee checks or flaws in the filing fee checks
Missing signatures in the forms
Missing forms
Missing underlying certified labor certification application for I-140 petitions (either original or copy).
Should the filers decide to refile it before August 17, 2007, the USCIS should accept a copy of the certified labor certification application rather than rejection or denial of the refiled I-140 petition. In fact, it has been the INS/USCIS tradition to accept I-140 petition with a copy of the certified labor certification application inasmuch as the original was on file with the agency, albeit in other file of the same applicant or other applicants. Accordingly, it should be a matter of adhering to the tradition and to instruct the adjudicators not to reject such refiling on the issue of a copy of the certified labor certification application. Additionally, inasmuch as there is an evidence that the labor certification has been certified by the DOL but the applicant was unable to submit the original or copy because the application was lost or yet to be delivered to the applicant, such I-140 which was filed during the period should not be rejected or denied. Again, it has been a tradition of the agency to request a duplicate certified labor certification from the DOL by the agency itself when there was a proof of certification. We urge the USCIS to exercise the discretion and instruct the adjudicators not to reject or deny I-140 filed during the problem period for the reasons of missing "original."
Foregoing actions will relieve these filers from most of the nightmares or status of being trapped. It is thus strongly urged that the leaders of the USCIS extend a compassion on a human level and exercise a discretion immediately to take the foregoing actions. This reporter has been receiving hundres of emails from these filers and had to share the pains and emotional despair since there was no answer to the foregoing issues under the curcumstances. Since the deadline of filing is August 17, 2007, the USCIS should swiftly release an announcement to relieve these people from the problem "effectively." On behalf of all these trapped, this reporter personally pleas the leaders of the USCIS to act quickly.
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MLS
09-25 02:06 PM
Hi Nat,
Fragomen took about 6 months in getting "prevailing wage info" for my case in 2001. My manager ( Canadian who had gone through US GC process himself) finally talked to them and asked them to file without waiting for DOL's reply on prevailing wage. (That was a risk but we agreed to take it at that point)
That six months delay costed me 6 years in GC processing ! But thanks to my manager , otherwise I dont know how many more years I would have waited.(One of my co-worker still awaits his labor cert !)
The big law firm goes by predefined steps , which are probably the safest way for most cases but may not be the fastest way. You need somebody who has been through this process and can understand and asks good questions to lawyers and can help lawyers to think for your perticular case. Check if you have somebody in your org to do that.
All the best.
My company started the PERM process for me about 2.5 months ago. I contacted Fragomen about 1.5 months after approvals within the company and they said they are working on establishing min requirements for the position. I then contacted them 3 weeks after that day and they said they have established the requirement and will request the DOL for prevailing wage info (this was 2 weeks ago). After which they are going to start the recruitment process. So I'm not sure if the time line is okay or should I be chasing them more frequently? Please advise.
Regards
Nat
Fragomen took about 6 months in getting "prevailing wage info" for my case in 2001. My manager ( Canadian who had gone through US GC process himself) finally talked to them and asked them to file without waiting for DOL's reply on prevailing wage. (That was a risk but we agreed to take it at that point)
That six months delay costed me 6 years in GC processing ! But thanks to my manager , otherwise I dont know how many more years I would have waited.(One of my co-worker still awaits his labor cert !)
The big law firm goes by predefined steps , which are probably the safest way for most cases but may not be the fastest way. You need somebody who has been through this process and can understand and asks good questions to lawyers and can help lawyers to think for your perticular case. Check if you have somebody in your org to do that.
All the best.
My company started the PERM process for me about 2.5 months ago. I contacted Fragomen about 1.5 months after approvals within the company and they said they are working on establishing min requirements for the position. I then contacted them 3 weeks after that day and they said they have established the requirement and will request the DOL for prevailing wage info (this was 2 weeks ago). After which they are going to start the recruitment process. So I'm not sure if the time line is okay or should I be chasing them more frequently? Please advise.
Regards
Nat
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zephyrr
12-10 01:21 PM
I've been on the website for sometime, started out with a positive attitude, contributed etc, but got totally * turned off* by childish posts like the one from Logiclife. Emotional responses to situations is hardly the way to lead, especially a volunteer organization like IV. Do you think big exhortations and 'quotations' from all over the web motivate people??
Needhelp, you are doing a great job. It is insincere of people to not show up after they've committed, but what's new? We've all had that happen when we try to arrange large parties where the 'not so close' crowd is expected.
My 2 cents, instead of using impersonal bulletin boards and emails, lets try this:
- you * call * 2 of your friends and ask them to commit
- ur friends each calls 2 more friends and asks them to commit
I'm willing to bet, we'll get a better turnover this way.
Cheers
Logiclife,
IV is a voluntary organisation. You can request people to volunteer, but cannot force them or scold them for not volunteering. This is not professional. They might have their reasons and the right to work their way. I agree with your frustration when people who signed to turn up do not show up. But I feel this is not the way to express it.
Ram
Needhelp, you are doing a great job. It is insincere of people to not show up after they've committed, but what's new? We've all had that happen when we try to arrange large parties where the 'not so close' crowd is expected.
My 2 cents, instead of using impersonal bulletin boards and emails, lets try this:
- you * call * 2 of your friends and ask them to commit
- ur friends each calls 2 more friends and asks them to commit
I'm willing to bet, we'll get a better turnover this way.
Cheers
Logiclife,
IV is a voluntary organisation. You can request people to volunteer, but cannot force them or scold them for not volunteering. This is not professional. They might have their reasons and the right to work their way. I agree with your frustration when people who signed to turn up do not show up. But I feel this is not the way to express it.
Ram
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MDix
02-14 10:20 AM
Please PM me the Email you sent to CISOmbudsman.
Don't let others to HIJACK this thread they have developed habit.
We gotta follow this to the end.
Thank's
MDix
i had sent an email to c.. requesting allowing to file for AOS..as a mode of temporary relief...they replied..saying thanks for the input...
I think we must pursue this for now... since any meaning reforms are atleast couples of months away.. this relief can save lots of EB ppl during uncertain times.
inputs welcome..
Don't let others to HIJACK this thread they have developed habit.
We gotta follow this to the end.
Thank's
MDix
i had sent an email to c.. requesting allowing to file for AOS..as a mode of temporary relief...they replied..saying thanks for the input...
I think we must pursue this for now... since any meaning reforms are atleast couples of months away.. this relief can save lots of EB ppl during uncertain times.
inputs welcome..
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desi3933
06-20 09:29 AM
I dont think this bill has or will have any favorable provisions for us unless a miracle occurs.
I think the tech companies have cut a deal with the Senators through which they will have access to 115,000 H1Bs and more moving forward in lieu of no increase in EB green cards.
Ask yourself a question. If you were running a big business - whom would you prefer -- GC Employees or H1-B Employees.
What may be good for us may not be good for the other side.
I think the tech companies have cut a deal with the Senators through which they will have access to 115,000 H1Bs and more moving forward in lieu of no increase in EB green cards.
Ask yourself a question. If you were running a big business - whom would you prefer -- GC Employees or H1-B Employees.
What may be good for us may not be good for the other side.
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nagio
05-19 12:40 AM
Done. Informed friends.
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pappu
01-23 12:11 PM
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=23238
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Jaime
09-04 07:15 PM
Let's all do the same!
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snathan
03-27 03:13 PM
Dear Sir,
Not convincing. 2006 was when Retrogression started. And it was declared HUGE only in 2007,8,9,10. Just because some Tom or D has forcasted that therez gonna be huge retrogression, we dont base our GC plans on that. Correct..
If everyone were to go with your logic, then I guess EB2 qualified guys must wait for .. well how many years, u tell us.. to apply in .. EB1 ".. And what shoudl EB3 guys do..
The point is, lets focus our energies on the main problem which all of us face, and not show any disgust on any one category. I know how it feels if someone is coming in front of me in my line.. But how can we stop them.
Lets bring attention to releasing those wasted visas, quota problems etc..
If equal spillover happens from EB1 to rest of categories, EB2 will affected immediatley.
Its personal choice if and when they want to start the GC process if there is an opporunity. I also didnt start my GC even though my first employer wanted to start the GC for me in 2005 and I refused for whatever stupid reasons...which I am regreting now
Not convincing. 2006 was when Retrogression started. And it was declared HUGE only in 2007,8,9,10. Just because some Tom or D has forcasted that therez gonna be huge retrogression, we dont base our GC plans on that. Correct..
If everyone were to go with your logic, then I guess EB2 qualified guys must wait for .. well how many years, u tell us.. to apply in .. EB1 ".. And what shoudl EB3 guys do..
The point is, lets focus our energies on the main problem which all of us face, and not show any disgust on any one category. I know how it feels if someone is coming in front of me in my line.. But how can we stop them.
Lets bring attention to releasing those wasted visas, quota problems etc..
If equal spillover happens from EB1 to rest of categories, EB2 will affected immediatley.
Its personal choice if and when they want to start the GC process if there is an opporunity. I also didnt start my GC even though my first employer wanted to start the GC for me in 2005 and I refused for whatever stupid reasons...which I am regreting now
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Goodintentions
03-27 04:42 PM
Dear All,
All the infigting and ranting we do, only creates a lot of negative energy and negative vibrations. People will continue to do what is right for them and normally try to be in the right side of the law. There is no point discussing about this.
Let us all be clear that within the next year, despite the spillover, both EB2 and EB3 will get absolutley clogged - I expect EB2 and EB3 nos to become more or less equal and clogged. This situation is not going to benefit anyone.
The only possible thing is to try sincerely for some legislative relief, unitedly. Everyone knows that it is like moving a mountain. I spoke to many friends about IV efforts and tried my best sincerely to raise money for advocacy. It was a futile exercise. I felt so sad to realize that everyone I spoke to, was cynical and said that nothing would work out in our favour. Under such circumstances, it is essential that the very few who are committed to work stay united and sincerely try! For most of us with grown up children, this is the only way! Like it or not!
Why cannot all of us atleast make a small contribution for the advocacy? What is the problem?
Again, as a person who is seriously stuck in this mess with children on the verge of completing high school, I have very little options left. Most of the good colleges are NOT willing to consider "aliens" like us eligible for instate (local) tuition. Did anyone think of this? All of us will have to pay international fees! Who can pay $ 50000 per annum? Under the circumstances, please note that many of us will have to return to India or atleast move our families! I wrote a letter to my Senator about this and I got a response saying that he cannot do anything about it. Please think about all the consequences before wasting time on endless EB2 - EB3 fights!
I also want to repeat what I had said a few months back. No immigration system that is not time bound is fair or transparent. With all the sincerity at my command (I have nothing to gain in the process) I would request youngsters in their early and mid 30s to seriously consider options in other "First World" countries which have time bound immigration programmes for highly qualified immigrants. It is an endless wait here.Do you want to spend the next 10+ staring at the visa bulletin very month? . I do not want my junior countrymen to commit the mistake of sinking in this quagmire. With due respect to all the hard work of gurus like Teddy and others, I still feel that it would take about 12 - 15 years for anyone of us waiting beyond Jan 2007 (though I do not wish for it). What would be the state of the economy then? Any thoughts?
High time we stay focused and use this forum in a positive way!
May the SUPREME POWER bless the Indian EB community!
All the infigting and ranting we do, only creates a lot of negative energy and negative vibrations. People will continue to do what is right for them and normally try to be in the right side of the law. There is no point discussing about this.
Let us all be clear that within the next year, despite the spillover, both EB2 and EB3 will get absolutley clogged - I expect EB2 and EB3 nos to become more or less equal and clogged. This situation is not going to benefit anyone.
The only possible thing is to try sincerely for some legislative relief, unitedly. Everyone knows that it is like moving a mountain. I spoke to many friends about IV efforts and tried my best sincerely to raise money for advocacy. It was a futile exercise. I felt so sad to realize that everyone I spoke to, was cynical and said that nothing would work out in our favour. Under such circumstances, it is essential that the very few who are committed to work stay united and sincerely try! For most of us with grown up children, this is the only way! Like it or not!
Why cannot all of us atleast make a small contribution for the advocacy? What is the problem?
Again, as a person who is seriously stuck in this mess with children on the verge of completing high school, I have very little options left. Most of the good colleges are NOT willing to consider "aliens" like us eligible for instate (local) tuition. Did anyone think of this? All of us will have to pay international fees! Who can pay $ 50000 per annum? Under the circumstances, please note that many of us will have to return to India or atleast move our families! I wrote a letter to my Senator about this and I got a response saying that he cannot do anything about it. Please think about all the consequences before wasting time on endless EB2 - EB3 fights!
I also want to repeat what I had said a few months back. No immigration system that is not time bound is fair or transparent. With all the sincerity at my command (I have nothing to gain in the process) I would request youngsters in their early and mid 30s to seriously consider options in other "First World" countries which have time bound immigration programmes for highly qualified immigrants. It is an endless wait here.Do you want to spend the next 10+ staring at the visa bulletin very month? . I do not want my junior countrymen to commit the mistake of sinking in this quagmire. With due respect to all the hard work of gurus like Teddy and others, I still feel that it would take about 12 - 15 years for anyone of us waiting beyond Jan 2007 (though I do not wish for it). What would be the state of the economy then? Any thoughts?
High time we stay focused and use this forum in a positive way!
May the SUPREME POWER bless the Indian EB community!
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franklin
09-21 08:53 PM
Hi Franklin,
Thanks much for your valuable feedback, and I agree to your points and suggestions.
Regards,
IK
You do realize I will hold you to your last point now though :)
To the people that did attend, I re-iterate, please don't judge people who post their honest opinion. We should take this opportunity to learn why people choose not to come so we can improve our strategy for next time.
Thanks much for your valuable feedback, and I agree to your points and suggestions.
Regards,
IK
You do realize I will hold you to your last point now though :)
To the people that did attend, I re-iterate, please don't judge people who post their honest opinion. We should take this opportunity to learn why people choose not to come so we can improve our strategy for next time.
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chmur
07-18 06:46 PM
If that could happen i would say sort it by PD irrespective of EB1/EB2/EB3 or country of birth. Juistice for all !
Normalization among EB categories can indeed happen today under current laws for some of the candidates . Unfortunately, the normalization across country of birth cannot happen under the given laws(don't know if Divorce+marriage can help).
I am all for normalization across countries ...till that is possible let's use the opportunity for normalization among EB categories .
Contrary to your earlier post , it will NOT lead to herding
Normalization among EB categories can indeed happen today under current laws for some of the candidates . Unfortunately, the normalization across country of birth cannot happen under the given laws(don't know if Divorce+marriage can help).
I am all for normalization across countries ...till that is possible let's use the opportunity for normalization among EB categories .
Contrary to your earlier post , it will NOT lead to herding
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perm2gc
12-01 07:15 PM
Can we organize a hunger strike in front of CAPITOL HILL ,just for one day ?
IV can co-ordinate the event. It will give BIG media attention in DC. It will open the eyes of American people !
Are you kidding.???
IV can co-ordinate the event. It will give BIG media attention in DC. It will open the eyes of American people !
Are you kidding.???
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needhelp!
06-23 03:17 PM
paskal.. It is in the works. We have some enthusiastic members from Austin who have taken this up already.
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any hope of someone going to the office for a meeting?
vijayrudra
04-28 11:53 AM
Contributed $100, Good Work and keep it up
indianindian2006
07-03 12:34 PM
http://aila.org/content/default.aspx?docid=19879
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