vbkris77
03-05 09:37 AM
What we get
1. We get number of EB2,EB3 Primary and EB2,EB3 Dependent applications.
2. From the wordings, I won't be suprized if they give a summarized number from 2001.
But if someone else requested this info broken into PD buckets by month and Year, then I think we need to use that. The letter I sent had that wording, but I never received any response yet.
Here is what we don't get
1. Break up by country - Helps folks in EB3 as ROW is not current
2. Some might have not applied for AOS for various reason like their I140 is still pending, Some companies mandate that. - This could be a small percentage
3. Break-up by PD month& year
More insight is welcome.. Pre-adjudicated cases are not approved cases. So they can't eliminate them..
I have received a response on my request last year to USCIS for information on number of AOS applications pending. Here it is:
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February 24, 2009
NRC2008065126
We received your request for information relating to Adjustment of Status applications in the employment-based category. You have specifically requested the number of pending employment based AOS applications, (excluding approved, denied) filed with USCIS since 2001, for each of the following countries and categories:
- EB-2 China
- EB-2 India
- EB-3 China
- EB-3 India
- EB-3 Mexico
- EB-3 Philippines
- EB-3 Rest of the World
Your request is being handled under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C 552). It has been assigned the following control number: NRC2008065126. Please cite th is number in any further inquiry about this request.
In order to extract the information you have requested, a customized computer program will be required. You will be charged for the time it takes to write the program as well as the time involved in running the query to extract the date. You will not be charged for duplication, review and search time. We estimate the cost to be $5000.00. Due to the time and effort involved, you will be asked to sign an advance fee agreement before we proceed with your request. In addition, a deposit of $2500.00 payable by check or money order, must be paid within 30 days of the date of this notification. Please make your check payable to the United States Treasury, Failure to submit the $2500.00 deposit within the time frame given will result in your request being administratively closed.
In order to assure that we provide the information you seek in the format you have requested, we ask that you clarify the information sought. Employment based status is broken down into the following 14 categories.
_____________
NRC2008065126
Page 2
E21 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E22 SPOUSE OF ES1 OR E21
E23 CHILD OF ES1 OR E21
E26 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E27 SPOUSE OF ES6
E28 CHILD OF ES6
E30 203(b)(3) CHILD OF E36, E37
E31 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E32 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E34 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E31, E32
E35 203(b)(3)(A) CHILD OF E31, E32
E36 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E37 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E39 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E36, E37
Are you asking tha the information we provide be broken down into the categories listed above, or may we group all EB-2 categories and ass EB-3 categories together?
Please define priority date.
You have asked for information concerning the country of chargeability. This information is not assigned until the application is approved or denied. Since you have requested information on pending applications only, this information is not available.
If you have any questions concerning your pending FOIA/PA request, please address them to this office, Attention: FOIA/PA Officer, or call us at 816-350-5570, or fax any FOIA/PA related correspondence to 816-350-5785.
Sincerely,
T. Diane Cejka
Director
___________________________
I will post a scan tomorrow
From what I understand, they aren't able to get the numbers by country of chargeablility.
Its funny they are asking me to define priority date ! :)
1. We get number of EB2,EB3 Primary and EB2,EB3 Dependent applications.
2. From the wordings, I won't be suprized if they give a summarized number from 2001.
But if someone else requested this info broken into PD buckets by month and Year, then I think we need to use that. The letter I sent had that wording, but I never received any response yet.
Here is what we don't get
1. Break up by country - Helps folks in EB3 as ROW is not current
2. Some might have not applied for AOS for various reason like their I140 is still pending, Some companies mandate that. - This could be a small percentage
3. Break-up by PD month& year
More insight is welcome.. Pre-adjudicated cases are not approved cases. So they can't eliminate them..
I have received a response on my request last year to USCIS for information on number of AOS applications pending. Here it is:
--------------------------------------
February 24, 2009
NRC2008065126
We received your request for information relating to Adjustment of Status applications in the employment-based category. You have specifically requested the number of pending employment based AOS applications, (excluding approved, denied) filed with USCIS since 2001, for each of the following countries and categories:
- EB-2 China
- EB-2 India
- EB-3 China
- EB-3 India
- EB-3 Mexico
- EB-3 Philippines
- EB-3 Rest of the World
Your request is being handled under the provisions of the Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S.C 552). It has been assigned the following control number: NRC2008065126. Please cite th is number in any further inquiry about this request.
In order to extract the information you have requested, a customized computer program will be required. You will be charged for the time it takes to write the program as well as the time involved in running the query to extract the date. You will not be charged for duplication, review and search time. We estimate the cost to be $5000.00. Due to the time and effort involved, you will be asked to sign an advance fee agreement before we proceed with your request. In addition, a deposit of $2500.00 payable by check or money order, must be paid within 30 days of the date of this notification. Please make your check payable to the United States Treasury, Failure to submit the $2500.00 deposit within the time frame given will result in your request being administratively closed.
In order to assure that we provide the information you seek in the format you have requested, we ask that you clarify the information sought. Employment based status is broken down into the following 14 categories.
_____________
NRC2008065126
Page 2
E21 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E22 SPOUSE OF ES1 OR E21
E23 CHILD OF ES1 OR E21
E26 203(b)(2) PROF/EXCPTNL ABILITY
E27 SPOUSE OF ES6
E28 CHILD OF ES6
E30 203(b)(3) CHILD OF E36, E37
E31 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E32 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E34 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E31, E32
E35 203(b)(3)(A) CHILD OF E31, E32
E36 203(b)(3)(A)(i) SKILLED WORKER
E37 203(b)(3)(A)(ii) PROFESSIONAL
E39 203(b)(3)(A) SPOUSE OF E36, E37
Are you asking tha the information we provide be broken down into the categories listed above, or may we group all EB-2 categories and ass EB-3 categories together?
Please define priority date.
You have asked for information concerning the country of chargeability. This information is not assigned until the application is approved or denied. Since you have requested information on pending applications only, this information is not available.
If you have any questions concerning your pending FOIA/PA request, please address them to this office, Attention: FOIA/PA Officer, or call us at 816-350-5570, or fax any FOIA/PA related correspondence to 816-350-5785.
Sincerely,
T. Diane Cejka
Director
___________________________
I will post a scan tomorrow
From what I understand, they aren't able to get the numbers by country of chargeablility.
Its funny they are asking me to define priority date ! :)
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marlon2006
07-18 10:33 AM
I thought about that as well.
In my home country, you are *supposed* to list your age on your resume. I am not kidding. They don't consider your resume if you don't put your age there. If I go back there in few years from now (I am 34 now), I am not sure I would be successful there anymore.
Folks, we are in a very difficult situation. Our careers are in grave danger. I was planning to wait for GC to let potential employers pay my masters degree, but no way. I already submitted the paperwork to resume the sucker MBA this Fall and pay the whole thing from my pockets. Either that or I should trigger AC21 very soon.
If the October visa bulletin shows EB3 World stagnated or retrogressed, you can bet a Starbucks coffee I will be looking for another job/AC21 very fast.
Some people advise to wait and watch and some people ask to do something else. I would like to say one thing and it is purely my perspective. People who are waiting inline for 8-10years does not know when they will be getting their GC in hand. May be in next four to five years. By that time on average their age will be around 35-45.
Do you want to wait 4-5 years and do the job which you were doing 10years back?
Did you had any vision for your career when you started your GC and life?
Do you have the same vision now for your career and life?
Did you feel you and your family have sacrified enough in your personel life for this stupid GC?
IF YOU SAY I HAVE DECIDED TO GO BACK TO MY HOME COUNTRY:
Do you think you will get a managerial job if you go back to india at the age of 40 when you could see guys @30 doing that job with ease and with better experience?
Do you think becos of 10+years of expereince in programming field, indian companies will recruit you for managerial job?
Are you willing to work in India as a programmer with 10+ years of US exp under a 25-30 year old team lead or PM ?
If you say YES , YES , YES for all the above, do you think any indian company will recruit a programmer at the age of 40? forget about the salary you are going to ask for your exp which they will never accept.
So at the end if you wait long enough for GC, then it is better to wait here until you get it. At least you can save your life though you have to start your career from -10years. If you quit and decide to go back to your homecountry, your life is going to be tough.
Options for guys waiting for 8-10years for LC:
1. Try to get PMI Certification, CISA certificaiton.
2. Try to get TOEFL, GMAT scores and keep it ready.
3. Try to get in contacts with most of your friends and manpower agencies in India.
4. If you file for your 485 in next one or one and half years, then proeceed with MBA plans(parttime or full time or executive MBA) in top 25-30 business school.
5. Your waiting will yeild fruit in this country only with MBA as in next 10 years, US will need more managers than programmers to manager all their outsourced projects.
6. If you do not have such vision and you are happy with what you are doing now and if your job is secured for next 100years and if you feel that you will be happy in future by doing the same job and OK with other kids going up the ladder stepping on you and if you are ok reporting to them and listening to them, getting bashed by them etc etc, you can very well wait for next 100 years hoping to get GC one day.
I am not talking about one guy in one corner living beautiful life.
I am not talking about guys who are lucky on everthing to get on time including GC.
I am talking about majority of the people and general human nature, people who came to US with a vision for their career and life. People who have had and has a spark in their eyes.
In my home country, you are *supposed* to list your age on your resume. I am not kidding. They don't consider your resume if you don't put your age there. If I go back there in few years from now (I am 34 now), I am not sure I would be successful there anymore.
Folks, we are in a very difficult situation. Our careers are in grave danger. I was planning to wait for GC to let potential employers pay my masters degree, but no way. I already submitted the paperwork to resume the sucker MBA this Fall and pay the whole thing from my pockets. Either that or I should trigger AC21 very soon.
If the October visa bulletin shows EB3 World stagnated or retrogressed, you can bet a Starbucks coffee I will be looking for another job/AC21 very fast.
Some people advise to wait and watch and some people ask to do something else. I would like to say one thing and it is purely my perspective. People who are waiting inline for 8-10years does not know when they will be getting their GC in hand. May be in next four to five years. By that time on average their age will be around 35-45.
Do you want to wait 4-5 years and do the job which you were doing 10years back?
Did you had any vision for your career when you started your GC and life?
Do you have the same vision now for your career and life?
Did you feel you and your family have sacrified enough in your personel life for this stupid GC?
IF YOU SAY I HAVE DECIDED TO GO BACK TO MY HOME COUNTRY:
Do you think you will get a managerial job if you go back to india at the age of 40 when you could see guys @30 doing that job with ease and with better experience?
Do you think becos of 10+years of expereince in programming field, indian companies will recruit you for managerial job?
Are you willing to work in India as a programmer with 10+ years of US exp under a 25-30 year old team lead or PM ?
If you say YES , YES , YES for all the above, do you think any indian company will recruit a programmer at the age of 40? forget about the salary you are going to ask for your exp which they will never accept.
So at the end if you wait long enough for GC, then it is better to wait here until you get it. At least you can save your life though you have to start your career from -10years. If you quit and decide to go back to your homecountry, your life is going to be tough.
Options for guys waiting for 8-10years for LC:
1. Try to get PMI Certification, CISA certificaiton.
2. Try to get TOEFL, GMAT scores and keep it ready.
3. Try to get in contacts with most of your friends and manpower agencies in India.
4. If you file for your 485 in next one or one and half years, then proeceed with MBA plans(parttime or full time or executive MBA) in top 25-30 business school.
5. Your waiting will yeild fruit in this country only with MBA as in next 10 years, US will need more managers than programmers to manager all their outsourced projects.
6. If you do not have such vision and you are happy with what you are doing now and if your job is secured for next 100years and if you feel that you will be happy in future by doing the same job and OK with other kids going up the ladder stepping on you and if you are ok reporting to them and listening to them, getting bashed by them etc etc, you can very well wait for next 100 years hoping to get GC one day.
I am not talking about one guy in one corner living beautiful life.
I am not talking about guys who are lucky on everthing to get on time including GC.
I am talking about majority of the people and general human nature, people who came to US with a vision for their career and life. People who have had and has a spark in their eyes.
canadianinnyc
02-22 04:00 PM
Thank you very much to the above for your replies. This is very helpful.
A couple basic questions:
a) What is AC21? Is it a form I send to USCIS?
b) What is an RFE (re: I-140)?
Many thanks!
A couple basic questions:
a) What is AC21? Is it a form I send to USCIS?
b) What is an RFE (re: I-140)?
Many thanks!
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techbuyer77
06-12 03:42 PM
Please help!!!!!!
I just filed i-485. My pD is Jan 2004
i-140 has been previoulsy approved. I was laid off but my original employer agreed to give me evl, but with the way the economy is going they are not doing well.
I have another employer which I am working now with.
How likely is to get an approval (or an rfe for paystubs?) before 180 days.
I am eb3 row
Thanks, I am very depressed it took too long I guess and the economy changed and now the whole future of my family is pending
I just filed i-485. My pD is Jan 2004
i-140 has been previoulsy approved. I was laid off but my original employer agreed to give me evl, but with the way the economy is going they are not doing well.
I have another employer which I am working now with.
How likely is to get an approval (or an rfe for paystubs?) before 180 days.
I am eb3 row
Thanks, I am very depressed it took too long I guess and the economy changed and now the whole future of my family is pending
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akhilmahajan
10-21 11:33 AM
Kudos to the MI chapter for their first chapter meet.
I am sure it will act as a great motivating factor for the other chapters also.
Lets keep the good work going on.
GO IV GO.
TOGETHER WE CAN.
I am sure it will act as a great motivating factor for the other chapters also.
Lets keep the good work going on.
GO IV GO.
TOGETHER WE CAN.
fall2004us
08-21 03:14 PM
One of the required documents for PIO card is (apostilled copy of the US passport holder)
just wondering what did you do to get the documents apostilled ?
I tried looking for an answer, looks like it is a long procedure and you have to get it certified by the US dept of state ???
So I applied for a 10year visa for my daughter and they issued in 8 days from san francisco.
just wondering what did you do to get the documents apostilled ?
I tried looking for an answer, looks like it is a long procedure and you have to get it certified by the US dept of state ???
So I applied for a 10year visa for my daughter and they issued in 8 days from san francisco.
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sparky_jones
03-04 10:51 PM
Someone once said...."Freedom comes at a cost.". After reading this, I am thinking...."Freedom of Information comes at a cost too....$5k to be precise"!
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ravi.shah
05-17 12:04 PM
Thanks IV.
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eastindia
03-25 10:01 AM
Spillover will start happening in 75 days. Wait is getting reduced by the day.
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Munna Bhai
09-22 06:49 AM
Hi,
I am from Jordan and I attended the rally. 4 of my friends "who are Jordanian and have their citizenships already" drove from Chicago to attend the rally, but they got lost in Baltimore. They wish all of us all the luck and they support all of us 100%:)
That have been said and as I mentioned on another threat, I know 10 people from India who work with me and promised to meet me there, but no one of them attended, and I called them before the rally at their offices and all of them were there. I am very disappointed of them.:mad:
Thanks for attending rally...yes, you will see lot of Indians taking back seat..just forget them and lets move forward.
I am from Jordan and I attended the rally. 4 of my friends "who are Jordanian and have their citizenships already" drove from Chicago to attend the rally, but they got lost in Baltimore. They wish all of us all the luck and they support all of us 100%:)
That have been said and as I mentioned on another threat, I know 10 people from India who work with me and promised to meet me there, but no one of them attended, and I called them before the rally at their offices and all of them were there. I am very disappointed of them.:mad:
Thanks for attending rally...yes, you will see lot of Indians taking back seat..just forget them and lets move forward.
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walking_dude
10-15 05:45 PM
Michigan, find your Immigration Voice on 10/20. For when, where and what, look below!
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vallabhu
03-17 11:02 AM
I dont see anything which will allow us to file for 485 as soon as the labor is approved, s1932 had a point whcih would allow us to file for 485 without waiting for the priority date.
Or am I missing some thing.
Or am I missing some thing.
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swaroopmukka
07-19 02:52 PM
SVAM77,
I'm planning to file my 140 and 485 concurrently on the same exact day. Will there be any problem with USCIS accepting my 485 because I'm filing 140 also on the same day ??
Thanks
I'm planning to file my 140 and 485 concurrently on the same exact day. Will there be any problem with USCIS accepting my 485 because I'm filing 140 also on the same day ??
Thanks
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awenger
08-21 02:17 PM
In fact a fellow indian wearing a turban tried to get into the consulate just before the consulate officially opens. The person inside (not the security) threatened him that he/she will call security and through him out!. Thats their attitude... They (at least think) belong to ruling class of india, so they behave like that?!
Why was your "fellow Indian wearing a turban" trying to enter the Consulate before it officially opened? The Consulate official had every right to call security and "through out" your "fellow Indian wearing a turban". If your "fellow Indian wearing a turban" had followed the rules and not tried to force his way, maybe he would not have been treated thus.
Here's a thought: try doing the same here and see how well you are treated.
Why was your "fellow Indian wearing a turban" trying to enter the Consulate before it officially opened? The Consulate official had every right to call security and "through out" your "fellow Indian wearing a turban". If your "fellow Indian wearing a turban" had followed the rules and not tried to force his way, maybe he would not have been treated thus.
Here's a thought: try doing the same here and see how well you are treated.
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english_august
12-01 11:22 PM
I've been reading some great human interest stories in various threads here on ImmigrationVoice.org. I know that there was some interest earlier in creating short videos on people who've been waiting forever for their green cards. Why not channelize this into a single place where we can gather these stories in a more compelling format?
Here's an idea that I've been toying with for sometime. If we can take all these stories from all over the country and instead of using words to describe them, use small videos (60 - 90s) or a narrated slideshow to tell these stories and have them available via a single website. We would use YouTube to actually hold the video. We could have it sliced by region/state/city. We could have a running counter to show the average number of years people registered on the site have been wating for their green card. That could be a great place to refer to the media to portray that there are some really great people out there with a compelling reason to live in this country but the green card process is a big stumbling block.
The most important part is that the stories need to be positive, not sob stories. They should bristle with energy, to convey to the people and media at large that by wasting the energy of all these people in green card process, the US is essentially not able to channelize this for more productive use. If people are interested then please email me at vikas.chowdhry@gmail.com and if there is sufficient positive response then I can get the ball rolling.
Here's an idea that I've been toying with for sometime. If we can take all these stories from all over the country and instead of using words to describe them, use small videos (60 - 90s) or a narrated slideshow to tell these stories and have them available via a single website. We would use YouTube to actually hold the video. We could have it sliced by region/state/city. We could have a running counter to show the average number of years people registered on the site have been wating for their green card. That could be a great place to refer to the media to portray that there are some really great people out there with a compelling reason to live in this country but the green card process is a big stumbling block.
The most important part is that the stories need to be positive, not sob stories. They should bristle with energy, to convey to the people and media at large that by wasting the energy of all these people in green card process, the US is essentially not able to channelize this for more productive use. If people are interested then please email me at vikas.chowdhry@gmail.com and if there is sufficient positive response then I can get the ball rolling.
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franklin
09-27 12:34 PM
Your application will be processed until the stage where a visa number is needed to adjudicate your case. Since EB3 (am assuming here) ROW is not current. Your app will wait until visa numbers for your category becomes current. In other words, your last sentence may be true. But not if you become vocal about your plight and fight for it through activism (i.e by supporting Immigration Voice).
Exactly correct - if your pd is no longer current, your application will still progress. If all goes well, it will then fall into the "approved pending visa availabilty" - ie when your pd becomes current again, it will quickly be granted. This phenomenon is how uscis managed to approved so many applications from may onwards this year, there was a queue within a queue, so to speak :)
Back to the numbers game - what I was trying to say is, regardless of what the total numbers of pending applications are (because no one really knows - we can have best guesses), and not taking into count the country caps, the main issue is effciency of processing. The country quotas could disappear, and the overal limit couyld be increased, but without reforming the actual processing side the speed of approval will not change.
Exactly correct - if your pd is no longer current, your application will still progress. If all goes well, it will then fall into the "approved pending visa availabilty" - ie when your pd becomes current again, it will quickly be granted. This phenomenon is how uscis managed to approved so many applications from may onwards this year, there was a queue within a queue, so to speak :)
Back to the numbers game - what I was trying to say is, regardless of what the total numbers of pending applications are (because no one really knows - we can have best guesses), and not taking into count the country caps, the main issue is effciency of processing. The country quotas could disappear, and the overal limit couyld be increased, but without reforming the actual processing side the speed of approval will not change.
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vdlrao
07-15 04:36 PM
Here are all the LC approvals for India in the last seven years.
Year, Total LC Approved, Total India
2007 85112 24573
2006 79782 22298
2005 6133 1350
2004 43582 No Info
2003 62912 No Info
2002 79784 No Info
2001 77921 No Info
2000 70204 No Info
Based on the labor approvals, I am expecting EB2 will touch 2007 in the next 3 to 5 visa bulletins.
Year, Total LC Approved, Total India
2007 85112 24573
2006 79782 22298
2005 6133 1350
2004 43582 No Info
2003 62912 No Info
2002 79784 No Info
2001 77921 No Info
2000 70204 No Info
Based on the labor approvals, I am expecting EB2 will touch 2007 in the next 3 to 5 visa bulletins.
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addsf345
09-29 07:55 PM
I guess it's not about service. It's about job professionalism. There is no problem with Air Hostess or employees, but it is management. Let me give snap shot of my exp.
My flight was from Bangalore --> Bombay --> USA
Flight took off at Bangalore 60 mins late. Staff reassured that flight in Bombay will be waiting
Once we reached Bombay they took boarding passes and tore them off. They said your flight already left, you have to go next day. Some passengers noticed that few passengers are still boarded into US flight with flight nbr given in our boarding passes. When everyone made an issue about this they said, it's overbooked so we can not accommodate.
So their statement that flight took off was literal lie which is unprofessional. Also they deliberately delayed Bangalore flight which also they did not manage nicely
Then they said go to Delhi there is a flight. We reached delhi there is no flight. There AI staff said not sure why they sent you here. Only option is next flight starts tomorrow. Next day they listed the flight but again they say it's cancelled due to technical difficulties and part has to come from other country and you can fly only tomorrow.
By that time there were passengers of 2 days waiting. when every one made a big noise, they arranged a flight after 4 hours.
They should have made alternate arrangements before all this mess and 2 days of waiting. Consider people with infants.
I understand unfortunate things happen but deliberate lies due to mismanagement and moving you around just to buy time is completely unprofessional. I did not find this kind of unprofessionalism in other airlines, even though there are other bad experiences with them also.
similar incident happened to my room-mate, may be little worse.
The airline was aerofloat (russian) in this case.
they boarded aircraft from bombay to ewr. aircraft started running on runway and after some unsuccessful attempts they came back to terminal. with everyone's surprise, the pilot announced that there is a techincal difficulty and unable to takeoff.
Next flight was after 48 hours and that too from delhi. No need to say my friend spend 24 hours also at moscow airport and finally reached newark after 4 days finally. All these with no ground staff at bombay by aerofloat. Being young students, my friend and his groups helped like a coolie to shuttle all other elderly passengers bags to hotel and so forth. He is a very fair person and still doesn't blame aerofloat. He bought the return ticket for 760 with tax, where other airlines used to charge like 1200 or so.
morale of the story: don't blame airindia for all the faults. I am sure there is lot to improve but it is not the only airline where things go bad. This is possible anywhere.
and lastly, the OP who blamed airindia for not allowing duty free stuff bought at NJ at frankfurt - don't blame AI. It is the airport staff of FRA and not AI.
For all those who think that only airindia is bad, go to google and search for reviews of any airline. Chances are very high that you will get such horror stories described by someone.
The OP somewhere has an attitude that he is too important and shouldn't have any issues. Unfortunately the world is not perfect.
My flight was from Bangalore --> Bombay --> USA
Flight took off at Bangalore 60 mins late. Staff reassured that flight in Bombay will be waiting
Once we reached Bombay they took boarding passes and tore them off. They said your flight already left, you have to go next day. Some passengers noticed that few passengers are still boarded into US flight with flight nbr given in our boarding passes. When everyone made an issue about this they said, it's overbooked so we can not accommodate.
So their statement that flight took off was literal lie which is unprofessional. Also they deliberately delayed Bangalore flight which also they did not manage nicely
Then they said go to Delhi there is a flight. We reached delhi there is no flight. There AI staff said not sure why they sent you here. Only option is next flight starts tomorrow. Next day they listed the flight but again they say it's cancelled due to technical difficulties and part has to come from other country and you can fly only tomorrow.
By that time there were passengers of 2 days waiting. when every one made a big noise, they arranged a flight after 4 hours.
They should have made alternate arrangements before all this mess and 2 days of waiting. Consider people with infants.
I understand unfortunate things happen but deliberate lies due to mismanagement and moving you around just to buy time is completely unprofessional. I did not find this kind of unprofessionalism in other airlines, even though there are other bad experiences with them also.
similar incident happened to my room-mate, may be little worse.
The airline was aerofloat (russian) in this case.
they boarded aircraft from bombay to ewr. aircraft started running on runway and after some unsuccessful attempts they came back to terminal. with everyone's surprise, the pilot announced that there is a techincal difficulty and unable to takeoff.
Next flight was after 48 hours and that too from delhi. No need to say my friend spend 24 hours also at moscow airport and finally reached newark after 4 days finally. All these with no ground staff at bombay by aerofloat. Being young students, my friend and his groups helped like a coolie to shuttle all other elderly passengers bags to hotel and so forth. He is a very fair person and still doesn't blame aerofloat. He bought the return ticket for 760 with tax, where other airlines used to charge like 1200 or so.
morale of the story: don't blame airindia for all the faults. I am sure there is lot to improve but it is not the only airline where things go bad. This is possible anywhere.
and lastly, the OP who blamed airindia for not allowing duty free stuff bought at NJ at frankfurt - don't blame AI. It is the airport staff of FRA and not AI.
For all those who think that only airindia is bad, go to google and search for reviews of any airline. Chances are very high that you will get such horror stories described by someone.
The OP somewhere has an attitude that he is too important and shouldn't have any issues. Unfortunately the world is not perfect.
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hydguy1
05-13 12:56 AM
Hello everyone,
My brother's marriage has just been settled in India.I need to leave in 3 weeks and just applied for my AP today.I delayed renewing my AP due to financial reasons.Can someone please advise me the best way to expedite my AP as I really want to go the wedding.Thanks!
My brother's marriage has just been settled in India.I need to leave in 3 weeks and just applied for my AP today.I delayed renewing my AP due to financial reasons.Can someone please advise me the best way to expedite my AP as I really want to go the wedding.Thanks!
paskal
09-22 10:33 AM
When you say these are the " ONLY REASONS", you should think twice. If your wife delivered baby on that day or if you had back surgery a week ago probably you would not be been in DC for the rally. So please dont generalize anything.I am not sure if the most efficient way to motivate people is to write bunch of threads with the words like the four you used many times.
Good Luck
you are right. many people had very genuine reasons. personally i was glad to represent them in DC. even some very committed volunteers could not make it. i do not think chandu means to generalize. he is venting his own frustrations at the very substantial number of members who simply choose not to participate...in anything...let alone a rally...
Good Luck
you are right. many people had very genuine reasons. personally i was glad to represent them in DC. even some very committed volunteers could not make it. i do not think chandu means to generalize. he is venting his own frustrations at the very substantial number of members who simply choose not to participate...in anything...let alone a rally...
srinithati
09-20 09:39 PM
Our Flower protest got more attention and coverage..
We should send flowers to
1) President Bush Office
2) Hillary Clinton Office.
3) Nancy Pelosi Office
and few others totaling Top 6 media strong & political Big at Washington
Send flowers for 100 days campaign...10 flower bunches a day to each
60 Flower bunch a day - 6K in total for 100 days.
Considering each one costs with shipping 25 bucks....
We should send flowers to
1) President Bush Office
2) Hillary Clinton Office.
3) Nancy Pelosi Office
and few others totaling Top 6 media strong & political Big at Washington
Send flowers for 100 days campaign...10 flower bunches a day to each
60 Flower bunch a day - 6K in total for 100 days.
Considering each one costs with shipping 25 bucks....
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